Forum Archive Index - March 2004

[<philip@goodreturns.co.nz>]

Hi all

This is slightly (way) off topic but is interesting as it is being promoted by prominent investment banker and NZX board director.

 

Lloyd Morrison writes:

I am not sure whether you are aware that I am part of a campaign which has the objective of getting a referendum put at the next election asking New Zealanders whether they would like to change the New Zealand Flag. I have appended below the logic behind the campaign.

As Stage II of the campaign we have just activated our website : www.nzflag.com . The website is intended to be a focal/co-ordinating point for the campaign - informative, thought provoking and a means of collecting support and updating people of progress. It has a long way to go, but does provide the essence of what we are aiming to achieve. Importantly, there is a registration section where you can register your support for a referendum http://www.nzflag.com/signup.cfm - I would also welcome your views on how the site and campaign can be improved and 'letters to the editor' which can be published on the site. We're also starting to get quite a good mix of people at the endorsements level http://www.nzflag.com/endorsements.cfm .

The campaign is at its very early stages. My current opinion is that it has a very good chance of succeeding if we plan it well. Anecdotally, it appears there is overwhelming support for change (a recent survey of 400+ people had a 83% wanting change) - exactly what to is more vexed, as you might imagine!! However, our campaign is focused on getting a mandate for change - proper process will see the outcome in the hands of others and I have every confidence that whatever the outcome, it will be an improvement and a sign of the further maturation of the country.

Yours faithfully
Lloyd Morrison

 

A debate about whether New Zealand should change its flag

The debate about New Zealand's flag is not criticism of our past or disrespectful of the meaning of the current New Zealand flag to New Zealanders historically - the questions to be answered are - does the current flag represent the country well today? Does it portray the image we have of ourselves as a nation and the image we want portrayed internationally? Does it inspire us?

I think the answer to all of these questions is that we can improve considerably on the present flag. I have worked with Cameron Sanders from Cato Design to come up with an alternative flag design with NO expectation that this design will ever be adopted as our national flag. Our objective is to stimulate widespread debate to challenge our thinking and shake us into demanding change. Our new design is challenging : it is a very simple yet dynamic representation of the silver fern in the strong colours which New Zealanders identify with - black and white. I believe it is capable of inspiring.

Why a new flag?
* We need a flag which is more symbolic of New Zealand as a free, independent country with its own culture: a melting pot of Maori, Polynesian, European and more recently Asian influences evolved over 150+ years. By contrast, the existing flag has strong colonial links, lacks identity and does not reflect the strengths of our culture today;

* To inspire us as a nation : for New Zealanders there is far greater inspiration and identification with the silver fern, for example, than with the colonial flag. For years New Zealanders have identified proudly on sports fields with the silver fern - it conjures up images of Snell, Halberg, the Munich eight, not to mention the obvious; it is incorporated in the badges of most Army units; Fernleaf butter is one of our most famous international brandnames - in short, the silver fern has come to represent the heart of the nation when it really counts;

* To build our image internationally : in terms of global branding, there is no identification with our existing flag. We venture to suggest that no visitor to, for example, Canada, Japan, the UK or Switzerland would have any doubts about the identity of the national flag of those countries. On the contrary, visitors to New Zealand probably have little idea of the difference between the New Zealand flag and that of Australia, if they even have a vague idea of its image. It is as innocuous as the Australian flag, referred to by Jerry Seinfeld as "the Union Jack at night time!"

* The current flag lacks identity : the current flag has the Union Jack in the left hand corner ("first quarter" or "canton"), reflecting our colonial heritage. Numerous other countries, most notably Australia, also have the Union Jack in the first quarter, as well as many, many official naval, military and other flags internationally - not to mention every yacht squadron in the Commonwealth. New Zealand's current flag is similar to, perhaps, another hundred or so other official flags! Until Canada changed its flag in 1965 its official flag had the Union Jack in the first quarter. Canada's change of flag is a terrific example of what can be achieved!

Why the proposed design?
* The silver fern is widely representative of New Zealand and New Zealanders. The colours of 'black and white' have special significance for New Zealanders and a strong and distinct identity internationally as the colours for a national flag. The strength and profile of the Swiss and Japanese flags show that simplicity is a hallmark of good flag design. Our design aims to capture in strong simplicity of colour and design the essence and dynamism of the silver fern as New Zealand's image.

What is our aim and process ?
* The NZFlag.com Trust is a non profit trust which has been established with the sole purpose of encouraging New Zealanders to change the flag. The Trust aims to encourage the Government to put a referendum to all New Zealanders at the 2005 General election on the question "Should New Zealand change its flag?". If over 65% of New Zealander's support such a change, the Trustees anticipate an independent body would be empowered to choose a new flag for New Zealand.