Forum Archive Index - April 2003

["Allan Potts" <ajp7079@excite.com>]

Hi Gooner,

I don't know that we were imposing freedom from outside.  What we were doing 
was defending ourselves against a very dangerous enemy that was on the verge of 
obtaining atomic weapons and curretly financing terrorists which would shortly 
be attacking us.  The freedom the Iraqi's will eventually enjoy was a bonus 
benefit of this self defense activity.  Just because we dubbed it Operation 
Iraqi Freedom does not mean that this was the primary objective.

CNN -- a puppet of the American Government??????????????
CNN is the baby of Ted "the red" (Ted Turner)  Very anti-Bush, 
anti-administration, very left and at sometimes anti-American.  I actually had 
an uncontrollable laugh when I read your statement.  CNN is notoriously at odds 
with our government, at least any Republican administration.  He called Ruppert 
Murdock a Nazi.

I don't know what stations you have been watching, but I've seen thousands of 
Iraqi's dancing in the streets, not just 300.  We've seen more than 300 
celebrating right here in San Diego, since we have a rather large Iraqi 
community.  Dearborn Michigan has even a larger one and more than 1,000 Iraqi's 
danced in the streets there.

Al Jazeera is still broadcasting and has been.  It has also shown Iraqi's 
dancing in the streets after the fall of Baghdad.  However, Al Jazeera coverage 
was so anti-American prior to that time that Iraqi's chased their reporters out 
of Basra, all the way to the Kuwaiti border, because of their distorted 
coverage  prior to the fall of Baghdad.

Lastly, your news is not only inacurate, but out of date.  It was first thought 
that an American tank shot a Tank shell at Al Jazerra and killed and injured 
some of their people.  Upon investigation, and after inspection it was found 
that not only would a tank shell not have inflicted the damage that was done, 
but that the tank cannon would have had to shoot around a corner.  This is not 
just BS.

Our Iraqi's here in San Diego are very happy, although we did have a very small 
demonstration on the other side yesterday.  It was truly small.  Our locals, 
which are legion are celebrating.  Let's give this a couple of months and 
revisit the topic.

Regards,

Allan  



 --- On Fri 04/11, gooner  nickk@quicksilver.net.nz  wrote:
From: gooner [mailto: nickk@quicksilver.net.nz]
To: sharechat@sharechat.co.nz
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 19:58:20 +1200
Subject: [sharechat] 

Allan<br><br>I have no dispute with freedom, in fact I am fully in favour of 
liberty and<br>freedom.  I don't follow Superman's 'the American way' after 
this however<br>(or was that truth, justice etc?).<br><br>I do, however, loathe 
the thought of imposed freedom through force.  The<br>idea of freedom through 
outside force is oxymoronic IMHO.<br><br>You are seeing CNN pictures of 'free' 
Iraqi's.  I distrust CNN immensely.<br>They are just a puppet of the US 
government.  Moreover, there are 5 million<br>people in Baghdad, yet I saw only 
about 300 people on the TV.<br>There cannot be Al Jazeera pictures because the 
yanks bombed their building.<br><br>If you enjoy freedom of the press as much 
as you enjoy freedom of the people<br>then you should denigrate that 
act.<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Gooner<br>  <br>   Allan Potts writes:<br>  <br>   
<br>    Hi all,<br>   <br>    FREEDOM IS VERY NEAR FOR IRAQ.  If you are 
skeptical look at the<br>  pictures of Iraqi citizens dancing in the str
 eets of Basra and Baghdad.<br>  Pictures of Iraqi's giving flowers to and 
kissing coalition forces as<br>they<br>  enter their cities.<br>   <br>    The 
French and Germans are uncharacteristically silent -- notice<br>that.<br>  
Oops, looks as if they (the coalition) were right all along.  Let's be<br>  
silent, and hope no one will notice.<br>   <br>    Freedom for Iraq,<br>   <br> 
  <br>    Allan<br>   <br>   <br>   <br>   <br>    
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