Forum Archive Index - September 2003

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Some believe Gold could reach $1000 US per oz by 2005
Woody
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From: "Soarer2" <soarer2@xtra.co.nz>
To: <sharechat@sharechat.co.nz>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 3:10 PM
Subject: [sharechat] Outlook for FY2004


> gold goes to the moon, USD used as cheap toilet paper
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> From: <tennyson@caverock.net.nz>
> To: <sharechat@sharechat.co.nz>
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 1:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [sharechat] RBD Outlook for FY2004
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> > Hi Stephen,
> >
> > >
> > >I live and work in central Wellington.
> > >
> > >There are only three Starbucks in central Wellington: Willis St,
> > >Lambton Quay, and the Reading complex. They do not seem to
> > >be heavily patronised.
> > >
> >
> > There are a couple of Starbucks I know of in Christchurch city.    One
> > is in a closed street shopping mall.   It always seems to be well
> > patronised.   There seem to be a disproportionate number of 'asian'
> > and 'female' faces in there.   And many of them are 'asian females'.
> > New New Zealanders and tourists assimilating the local (sic) culture?
> >
> > There is another only five minutes walk away in Cathedral Square.
> > Judging by the number of back packs sitting by the outdoor tables
> > many of those are tourists too.   This one isn't so popular.   But it
> isn't
> > obviously more sparsely populated than the rival coffee shop on the
> > square 100m away.
> >
> > >
> > >The smaller standup joints - Fuel and their imitators -
> > >seem to be doing a much better business. You don't see many
> > discarded
> > >SB takeaway cups compared to Coffe Supreme, L'Affare or Havana.
> > >
> >
> > I've only been to SB a couple of times myself.  But my impression is
> > that they are porcelain mug coffee people, not chasing the paper cup
> > grab and go market.
> >
> > >
> > >Now the Wellington CBD must be one of the heaviest coffee-
> > consumption
> > >areas in New Zealand. I honestly would have expected Starbucks to
> > be
> > >everywhere by now, and I am a little perplexed that they aren't.
> > >Perhaps Wellington consumers are fussier.
> > >
> > >
> > >I would be most interested
> > >to know how Starbucks is doing in the rest of the country.
> > >
> >
> > I've given you the Christchurch report.  I should add that they are
> > definitely not number one here.   They would be behind Robert Harris,
> > who have quite a presence in the malls (Starbucks have none).   They
> > would be behind the Christchurch chain 'Coffee Culture' as well.
> > 'Coffee Culture' have three stores (Sumner, City and Cashmere) and
> > these are always very busy when I go past them.
> >
> > >
> > >And their ad campaign on the buses is cringe-inducing. "Your happy
> > >place"? To me "in his happy place" means "suffered a nervous
> > > breakdown".
> > >
> >
> > They do advertise do they?   Never heard any Starbucks advertising
> > myself.
> >
> > >
> > > Disclaimer: coffee snob.
> > >
> >
> > That might explain your comments.   I'm not sure Starbucks are really
> > after the 'boutique connisseur ' coffee consumer.   I think they are
after
> > a more mainstream audience that that.   Having said that, the particular
> > demographics in Wellington may mean that the 'coffee snobs' are
> > indeed the mainstream in that particular market.
> >
> > Starbucks sales were $22.8m in New Zealand in FY2003.  Total RBD
> > sales were $298.1m.  Put bluntly, I don't think that the Starbucks will
> > have that much influence on the overall performance of RBD.   KFC is
> > by far the largest part of the whole operation in profitability terms.
> >
> > SNOOPY
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