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| From: | Will Bryant <will@sharechat.co.nz> |
| Date: | Sat, 01 Sep 2001 17:05:35 +1200 |
Hi everyone, Just a quick note to say that we've upgraded the ShareChat site with a faster server and some big improvements to our systems. As always, if you notice any problems with the website, please feel free to mail myself (will@sharechat.co.nz) or one of the team (comments@sharechat.co.nz) personally - we'd be happy to help. Best regards, Will _______________________________________________________________________ Will Bryant ShareChat technical manager will@sharechat.co.nz http://www.sharechat.co.nz/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.sharechat.co.nz/ New Zealand's home for market investors ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To remove yourself from this list, please use the form at http://www.sharechat.co.nz/forum.shtml. Received: (qmail 4038 invoked by alias); 1 Sep 2001 02:17:16 -0000 Delivered-To: sharechat-list@sha.sharechat.co.nz Received: (qmail 4035 invoked by uid 30); 1 Sep 2001 02:17:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 4027 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2001 02:17:15 -0000 Received: from central.caverock.net.nz (root@210.55.207.1) by sha.sharechat.co.nz with SMTP; 1 Sep 2001 02:17:15 -0000 Received: from tennyson.caverock.net.nz (tc1-46.caverock.net.nz [210.55.206.46]) by central.caverock.net.nz (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f812Flt29175 for <sharechat@sharechat.co.nz>; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 14:15:48 +1200 Message-Id: <200109010215.f812Flt29175@central.caverock.net.nz> From: "tennyson@caverock.net.nz" <tennyson@caverock.net.nz> To: sharechat@sharechat.co.nz Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 14:20:59 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: [sharechat] Re Wrightson In-reply-to: <001501c13215$45ecbf90$0101a8c0@server> References: <200108311035.f7VAZut01313@central.caverock.net.nz> Sender: owner-sharechat@sha.sharechat.co.nz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sharechat@sharechat.co.nz >Snoopy wrote: > Roy McCallum wrote:, > > > The RD1 www.rd1.com > and Fencepost www.fencepost.com operations are serious businesses > selling to the same target market as Wrightson etc but without > livestock stock and wool services. Although both are attempting an > entry into livestock transactions via a web service. The major > strength they have in dealing with dairy farmers is payments are > made by direct deduction from milk payments - no bad debts and > prompt payment 20th month following. Yes the names are a little > perverse. > > Isn't that bad for farmers? By that I mean, wouldn't they be better capital managers if they were to go to a retailer (like an independent Wrightson) that was able to offer them more credit? > > > > Fronterra only have 20% of WRI. Not really enough to *demand* the > shots, even if they are the largest shareholder. > > That's the interesting bit - is 20% a starting base for building a > platform for increased influence? Or is it just a silly adventure? > What are the potentials for RD1 to buy a greater share of WRI and at > what price? > > As I see it, with the new takeover laws , the *only* way forward for RD1.com from here is to make a bid for *all* of the remaining Wrightson shares. Maybe they could wait for a business downturn and make a low bid so that not all shareholders accept? Or maybe that could "do a Lion Nathan" and make a two tier bid such that it is attractive for shareholders to sell some of their shares, but not all. > > >>I notice that there are two new directors being nominated for >>Wrightson at the AGM. 'Henry William van der Heyden' and 'Philip >>Michael Smith'. > >Both are directors of NZ Dairy I believe. Van der Hayden was one >time chairman of NZ Dairy and is now a director of Fronterra. >Michael Smith was once Chairman of Lion Nathan's China subsidiaries >and now a director of Fronterra, also AIA. > > So there is *still* no-one on the board with any retailing experience. Even Dr Freeth is a merchant banker by training. Absolutely amazing! It looks to me like the change of guard from GPG to RD1.com was simply a change of hijackers. > > >It appears I may have introduced you fellows to the secret part of >NZ's economy - that based on the cooperative dairy industry - it has >capital and is bent on expansion both locally and internationally. > > Interestingly, when the options for a hypothetical, at that time, a hypothetical "Global Co" were being discussed one of the options was a partial pubic float to gain new capital. One of the prominant economists, (was it Gareth Morgan?), suggested that as a co-operative Global Co. would be *short* of capital for what it would need to do in the future. Maybe part of the Global Co./ RD1.com strategy is to gain some of the future expansion capital needed from other farmers via profitable retailers like Wrightson? > > > How can non dairy farmer investors get a benefit from that?! > > Indeed, if dairying now makes up our largest single class of exports, it is poor that the nz investor has such a difficult time getting a piece of the action. SNOOPY --------------------------------- Message sent by Snoopy e-mail tennyson@caverock.net.nz on Pegasus Mail version 2.55 ---------------------------------- "You can tell me I'm wrong twice, but that still only makes me wrong once." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.sharechat.co.nz/ New Zealand's home for market investors ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To remove yourself from this list, please use the form at http://www.sharechat.co.nz/forum.shtml. Received: (qmail 31938 invoked by alias); 1 Sep 2001 00:21:38 -0000 Delivered-To: sharechat-list@sha.sharechat.co.nz Received: (qmail 31935 invoked by uid 30); 1 Sep 2001 00:21:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 31928 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2001 00:21:38 -0000 Received: from mail.wave.co.nz (root@203.96.216.11) by sha.sharechat.co.nz with SMTP; 1 Sep 2001 00:21:38 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (p9.rt1.wave.co.nz [203.96.201.9]) by mail.wave.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA04353 for <sharechat@sharechat.co.nz>; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 12:25:20 +1200 Message-ID: <000e01c1327c$8d091240$09c960cb@oemcomputer> From: "G Stolwyk" <stolwyk@wave.co.nz> To: "sharechat.co.nz" <sharechat@sharechat.co.nz> Subject: [sharechat] Film piracy and encryption Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 12:25:04 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C132E1.210FD280" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-sharechat@sha.sharechat.co.nz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sharechat@sharechat.co.nz This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C132E1.210FD280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A solution to film makers' and exhibitioners' worries?=20 An article discussing this: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/30/technology/circuits/30PIRA.html=20 Gerry ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C132E1.210FD280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4807.2300" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A solution to film makers' and = exhibitioners' =20 worries? </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>An article discussing = this:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20 href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/30/technology/circuits/30PIRA.html= ">http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/30/technology/circuits/30PIRA.html</A></= FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gerry</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C132E1.210FD280-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.sharechat.co.nz/ New Zealand's home for market investors ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To remove yourself from this list, please use the form at http://www.sharechat.co.nz/forum.shtml. Received: (qmail 10347 invoked by alias); 31 Aug 2001 21:18:18 -0000 Delivered-To: sharechat-list@sha.sharechat.co.nz Received: (qmail 10343 invoked by uid 30); 31 Aug 2001 21:18:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 10330 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2001 21:18:16 -0000 Received: from mta6-rme.xtra.co.nz (203.96.92.19) by sha.sharechat.co.nz with SMTP; 31 Aug 2001 21:18:16 -0000 Received: from workstation1 ([210.55.38.63]) by mta6-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20010831212138.UMXX607010.mta6-rme.xtra.co.nz@workstation1> for <sharechat@sharechat.co.nz>; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 09:21:38 +1200 Message-ID: <014e01c13265$7bd7a3e0$fa6c60cb@workstation1> From: "Colin Ross" <ceejaynz@xtra.co.nz> To: <sharechat@sharechat.co.nz> Subject: [sharechat] Fonterra and Farmer co-ops Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 22:58:29 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_014B_01C13270.73657740" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sharechat@sha.sharechat.co.nz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sharechat@sharechat.co.nz This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_014B_01C13270.73657740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A word of caution about Agricultural supplies. While Fonterra is Farmer-owned, my opinion is that they will require the = trading subsidiaries that supply the shareholders, to operate at small = or even no profit margin. Furthermore, consider the impact this kind of policy will have on the = pricing structures of alternative, for profit traders.!!! I speak as one who used to attempt to trade in this kind of = environment. Eventually the suppliers may cease to be dominant in Fonterra - but they = should be cautious - look what happened to the pip-fruit growers and = Enza ! Ceejay ------=_NextPart_000_014B_01C13270.73657740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>A word of caution about Agricultural=20 supplies.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>While Fonterra is Farmer-owned, my opinion is = that they=20 will require the trading subsidiaries that supply the shareholders, to = operate=20 at small or even no profit margin.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Furthermore, consider the impact this kind = of policy=20 will have on the pricing structures of alternative, for profit=20 traders.!!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I speak as one who used to attempt to = trade in=20 this kind of environment.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Eventually the suppliers may cease to be = dominant in=20 Fonterra - but they should be cautious - look what happened to the = pip-fruit=20 growers and Enza !</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Ceejay</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_014B_01C13270.73657740-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.sharechat.co.nz/ New Zealand's home for market investors ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To remove yourself from this list, please use the form at http://www.sharechat.co.nz/forum.shtml. Received: (qmail 30293 invoked by alias); 31 Aug 2001 23:55:43 -0000 Delivered-To: sharechat-list@sha.sharechat.co.nz Received: (qmail 30290 invoked by uid 30); 31 Aug 2001 23:55:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 30283 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2001 23:55:42 -0000 Received: from mail.wave.co.nz (root@203.96.216.11) by sha.sharechat.co.nz with SMTP; 31 Aug 2001 23:55:42 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (p9.rt1.wave.co.nz [203.96.201.9]) by mail.wave.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA32746 for <sharechat@sharechat.co.nz>; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 11:59:25 +1200 Message-ID: <000a01c13278$ee042d40$09c960cb@oemcomputer> From: "G Stolwyk" <stolwyk@wave.co.nz> To: "sharechat.co.nz" <sharechat@sharechat.co.nz> Subject: [sharechat] Film piracy and encryption Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 11:59:09 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C132DD.82141540" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-sharechat@sha.sharechat.co.nz Precedence: bulk Reply-To: sharechat@sharechat.co.nz This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C132DD.82141540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A solution to film makers' worries?=20 An article discussing this: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/30/technology/circuits/30PIRA.html=20 Gerry ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C132DD.82141540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4807.2300" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A solution to film makers' worries? = </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>An article discussing = this:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20 href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/30/technology/circuits/30PIRA.html= ">http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/30/technology/circuits/30PIRA.html</A></= FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gerry</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C132DD.82141540-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.sharechat.co.nz/ New Zealand's home for market investors ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To remove yourself from this list, please use the form at http://www.sharechat.co.nz/forum.shtml.
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