Ah - yes - Kondratieff - I do believe that's the
name. I went to a mtg on the MTA once (NY) and the cycles were
discussed there and also at amtg of SIRE a group that studies cyclic events in
every possible situation. TVM - sorted Senior moment
beautifully.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 10:17
AM
Subject: RE: [sharechat] Re: TA/FA
Phyllis
Was the Russian "Nicolai Kondratieff " wrore "The long waves in
economic Life"
JC
Cris and Woody et all
I spent the weekend studying, listening,
learning with Dan Gramza at the Sheraton in Auckland. Dan is not
a self promoting person, deals mainly with Institutional Traders and
this is a weekend we considered to be a privilege. As
a communicator he is just the best. I did mean to ask him what
Fundamental Information he uses but in the enthusiasm of learning I had a
Senior Moment!!!! He simply reads the Candles to great
effect.
I know there is a Power beyond us -
different people categorise it differently but it certainly
exists. I once listened to Neil Costa Australia - Gann and
Tony Plummer of Great Britain - Fibonnacci - exchange views. The
views were very similar. History repeats itself and there are
precursers in World Events in Cycles. An indicator if you
believe nothing else. Remember the Russian whose name escapes
right now who was imprisoned for his 28 year cycle predictions which
showed disaster in the future for the Soviets (I am a bit woolly here but
this is my general understanding).
I have viewed the charts of many World Indices
this weekend. Something I am not normally privy
to. I realised that through the study of market change
shown in Candles (from the Japanese who had a stock mkt 200 years before the
West) they were as understandable as our own. They show the
opinions and therefore actions of PEOPLE
and we are all the same no
matter what corner of the Globe we inhabit or how far from home we
are.
Now, I wont rabbit on - I'll just
say. I absolutely enjoy to the fullest your opinions and I
think the weekends posts were the best for many a long day.
Cris - you hit the button for me
here.
Woody - keep up the good work - I'm turning or
learning or whatever it is. Never was fundamental trader -
I can't understand all the verbiage but I can look at a screen and they are
getting better and clearer all the time. Am taking my
vitamins and exercise and developing a contentment which I trust will carry
me on for thirty years to enjoy the skills and understanding I'm
developing. I'm going to be a great disappointment
to the Pensions dept!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cheers and the greatest abundance to
all Phyllis.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 8:18
AM
Subject: Re: [sharechat] Re:
TA/FA
Woody and Gav,
As all actions cause
reactions, could planning of the Sept 11 tragedy (actions)
have been followed by a series of reactions which could
have triggered indicators?
Regards,
Cris
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003
10:20 PM
Subject: RE: [sharechat] Re:
TA/FA
Woody, I don't disagree with most of what you say. In my
consultancy I work as a Risk and Emergency Management consultant, and
studied disasters and terrorism a lot. Thats why I took up your
original message. I also have a strong scientific background and have
read about chaos theory, taken a paper on quantum physics at
university, and others.
I was one of those kids who always asked
'why?'. The reason I asked you 'why?' was because I couldn't
understand how you were linking the sell signals with events that
could not have been predicted - how many people even considered
intentionally flying jet planes into buildings before Sept 11, apart
from the CIA and a few others, it hadn't been a realistic option, as
nearly all hijack situations were hostage scenarios, not
suicide bombings.
I do not question in any way the fact that
you received a sell signal. I would still like to know how you can
link that signal to a natural phenomenon that has no relationship to
markets, such that markets can predict events. Or link it to
individual or group actions. I believe that these linkages can only
be created after the event.
There are indicators that can signal
to humans and animals that bad events may soon happen, and you're
right in suggesting that we can tune in to these. Science has
advanced humans a long way in predictive technologies. In the case of
storms, a decrease in air pressure is noticeable, and could
well cause animals and residents who understand the weather in a
region that they chould move further inland. Just as now we can model
cycles of waves and storms to estimate storm surges and suggest that
coastal communities move inland for the duration of the storm. But
there are clear linkages there. Storm is directly related to low
pressure, humans can detect low pressure, and make assumptions to
move. It is of course even easier now with weather sattelites. The
important thing is that we can clearly link all the pieces together
and understand the relationships.
To reiterate Woody, I agree
with much of what you say. I would just like to understand how the
sell signals are linked to the Sept 11 attacks, or how they predicted
the earthquake.
And how does this tie back to investing? Well, I
won't use a tool that I don't understand how it works. So, I have to
understand the tools I have available for investing. You are using a
tool that gives you a sell signal, and I am trying to understand how
that sell signal links back to the events you mentioned.
I
just read the Gann Wheel link you provided in your email. I found
this quote in the second to last paragraph on the page.
"Thus,
I affirm every class of phenomena, whether in nature or in
the market, must be subject to the universal laws of causation,
harmony and vibration."
I am looking for the causation link
between the sell signal and the events. At this stage I can't see
any.
Cheers Gav
PS Don't worry about the english, you
should feel good for speaking multiple languages. I understand
english is one of the more difficult languages to learn!
>
-----Original Message----- > From: sharechat-owner@sharechat.co.nz >
[mailto:sharechat-owner@sharechat.co.nz]On Behalf Of
fntradingsolutions > Sent: Sunday, 28 September 2003 00:57 >
To: sharechat@sharechat.co.nz >
Subject: Re: [sharechat] Re: TA/FA > > > Not an
Earthquake But an event. All major Good and Bad events are known
by > nature long before thay happen. > All Birds and animals
left Darwin in 1974 3 DAYS before Cyclone Tracy hit. > They did
not find one dead Rat in the ruins of the Twin Towers. > Being
born in Indonesia and having lived in Darwin and Cairns Nth > Qld
I have > been through several Cyclones, earthquakes and
floods. > I can tell you without a lie all animals have long left
the region days > before. Also 3 days before cyclone Tracy hit
Darwin all the > Aboriginals left > Town. HOW DO THEY
KNOW? > There are signals in Nature that if you are tuned in to
recieve you will. > And all Markets are Natural Phenomina. >
Scientists know this! Read and study Fuzzy logic Theories.
Sacred > geometry, > Even the very core of Quantum Physics.
All study and now believe that all > things are goverened. and if
you wish to study and believe you will find a > far simpler way of
trading than all the research you Guys do. I > do not care >
whether you believe me but I went short on the the Forex USD/JPY >
two days before the G7 Meeting because my system gave me sell signals.
I > shorted the SPI at 3248 because that was my predicted cycle
high and I am > still in there at 3173 and I know that the Next
high will be > between the 8th > and 11th of October. I know
this and I will trade this. I also > KNOW that the > USD/JPY
Forex contract bottomed at 110.87. > and that I will be going long
within the next week or so and I > will ride it > up to my
Predicted High. > Laugh as you will. But it took me 5 years to
learn this I too was as > skeptical as you. I am trying to help
you guys however I will soon give up > as I have never been in
such a narrow minded group of people. > http://www.insiidetrack.com/ >
http://www.sacredscience.com/ferrera/gannwheel.htm
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