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From: | "tennyson@caverock.net.nz" <tennyson@caverock.net.nz> |
Date: | Fri, 22 Feb 2002 18:34:41 +0000 |
Larry asked for comments on Cullen's speech today. I think the headline for this post more or less sums it up. > >-Cullen > >The Review's preferred solution is that investment in >listed shares and securities be taxed at a standard >risk-free rate of return, no matter the country of >investment. > >I am interested in this idea because it has the >potential to make the relevant tax rules simpler, fairer >and more effective. I hope to be in a position to set >out in some detail the likely direction the government >will take on these issues in the upcoming budget. > > Now if you go to the treasury website you get a more detailed run down on this http://www.treasury.govt.nz/taxreview2001/finalreport/ove rview3.html And a break down of the Risk Free Return Method (RFRM) formula Net asset value at the start of the year x Statutory risk-free real rate of return x The investor's tax rate I can't see any other way of interpreting what Cullen is saying except to say he is introducing a wealth tax. It is possible that this sort of tax will not make much difference to funds management companies. They have a broad spread of funds which means that returns will converge towards the 'notional rate'. They also have sufficient size to be able to liquidate their positions for tax purposes with relative ease. For the small investor however, this RFRM will be a disaster for any overseas investments they hold, and here is why. Many overseas companies have very low, sometimes zero dividend yields. Under the above scheme they will have to pay tax at a 'notional rate' highly likely to be above any cash income they receive. So in order to pay their tax, small investors will have to sell down part of their investment each year. For most investors this will be impossible as the minimum marketable parcel requirements overseas are much larger than New Zealand. A second problem is that shares do not always go up in value, often they go down. Under this scheme, share investors will be required to pay money on their past wealth, based on a notional return they might have earned, even if their shares have subsequently crashed in value. In other words it is possible for shareholders to left with a large tax bill with no assets to sell with which to pay it. Those 80% of 'day traders' who end up not making money please take note! A third problem for this method is that it would become impossible to calculate one's tax, as the tax rate becomes an implicit, not an explicit variable. For those that are a bit rusty on the maths this means: Old Situation: 1/ Calculate Income 2/ Determine Tax Rate New Situation 1/ Calculate Wealth 2/ use Wealth to work out notional income 3/ Determine Tax Rate on notional income 4/ Check reduction in Wealth 5/ Use Wealth to work out notional income 6/ Determine Tax Rate on notional income 7/ etc. etc. In other words it will be impossible to calculate your wealth or your tax rate in any simple way, as an increase in one means an increase in the other and vica versa. Did someone say 'simpler'? A fourth problem is that overseas wealth is highly subject to exchange rate fluctuation, which is particularly relevant to a small country currency such as ours. This means, for instance that you could prepurchase a holiday overseas and find yourself with a massive tax bill because the NZ currency suddenly depreciates. Of course the costs in the country you were planning to visit have not gone down, so any increase in 'wealth' which you are being taxed on, is illusory. To summarize, this coming tax law change assumes that any notional increase in wealth, (which bears no connection to any actual increase in wealth remember) will be accompanied by an accompanying ability to pay it. This is so obviously false, that I find it astonishing that any principle so basically flawed could ever make it past the discussion stage let alone rearing its ugly head in the upcoming budget. Can anything be done to stop this? SNOOPY --------------------------------- Message sent by Snoopy e-mail tennyson@caverock.net.nz on Pegasus Mail version 2.55 ---------------------------------- "Dogs have big tongues, so you can bet they don't bite them by accident" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To remove yourself from this list, please use the form at http://www.sharechat.co.nz/chat/forum/
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